It’s so very patriarchal that once people claiming to be men start having babies the whole idea of sacrifices for the unborn goes out the window. It would be funny if it wasn’t so infuriatingly sad.
Just for the sake of historical accuracy, let's not forget that denigrating motherhood has been in vogue for the last 50+ years, as has abandoning the role (AND RESPONSIBILITY) of motherhood - including the sensible pair bonding that is essential to be able to BE a proper mother (AKA 'stay at home').
So treating motherhood as a 'life accessory' rather than a serious undertaking is nothing new. TERFs are relishing these kinds of stories because AT LAST they can point the finger at someone else and claim the moral high ground. All of a sudden 'womanhood' and 'motherhood' is sacred (because writing blogs critical of trans activists requires no effort or sacrifice), but feminism has been denigrating femininity and female responsibility for more than 100 years, and pushing transhumanism to replace it (under the banner of 'empowerment'). So it all feels a bit rich to me.
Having said that, I think maybe all this non-binary / gender queer stuff might be necessary to provoke a new renaissance of sexual dimorphism, where we all stop moaning about men/ women and learn to appreciate male / female biology and natural pair bonding, as the best possible configuration for a fun and healthy society. Nature always trumps any new technology in the end, even if we get temporarily seduced by it. Feminism itself was a celebration of new gender bending tech - not least the pill - which was the beginnings of endocrine disruption and technology assisted erasure of biology (AKA transhumanism).
'Patriarchy' is when you have a society which prioritises the comfort, safety, health and well being of women and children, with men providing resources, protection and the 'hard outer shell' - sacrificing their own comfort, wellbeing (and often their lives) in the process.
Getting rid of traditional gender roles (smashing the patriarchy) is the first step needed to create a transhuman / technocratic 'utopia'. So I guess the moral of the story is be careful what you wish for :)
I disagree with your statement: "(because writing blogs critical of trans activists requires no effort or sacrifice)", because to be critical of trans activism now can require a level of sacrifice that (unless you have the financial resources of someone like JK Rowling), most 'ordinary' people cannot cope with. I know many nurses, midwives and volunteer and paid breastfeeding advocates who need to keep their jobs to pay their mortgages and feed their children, so keep their beliefs in biology and human physiology to themselves, lest they offend some delusional/and or confused colleague or client.
It is possible in many cases to hew to reality subversively, and it is not always possible to shout that popular cult members are wrong.
Feminism is a maligned idea, different people ascribe it different meanings. I read Germaine Greer's The.Whole Woman 1999, where she wrote of 'painted ladies' - or TIMs. It was about then I first read of TERFs and agreed with them. I don't agree that 'being a feminist' means pretending men and women's physical differences are inconsequential. It's the sex vs gender dichotomy. I believe that women should not be disparaged as emotional/ stupid/ belong at home because vulnerable/ victim in the making or periods/ pregnancy or menopause/ mental case/ unattractive. But not by the university scholars pretending physical sex doesn't matter and going 'Judith Butler'. But by insisting society at large value the work women do in pregnancy, breastfeeding etc. I'm a science and nursing graduate mum, married for 25 years. Motherhood means unlike my husband, I still have education debt in my late 40s. THAT is the kind of thing feminism is about. Economic prejudice/ rules set up ignoring the life cycle of women which are half the population.
Yes you are right, beyond a certain point it becomes dangerous to oppose the de-gendering of society. As an aside, this tells us the agenda comes from the tippy top, and that these transhuman-obsessed social engineers only 'care' about young people to the extent that they can use them as a human shield/ Trojan horse for their agendas.
I was talking more about the average 'coffee shop' TERF/ GC who has suddenly decided that female biology is sacred after all, and that women should now be defined by it, after spending decades biting the head off anyone who dares to define women that way.
This is why everyone is rolling their eyes at the TERFs. The idea that men and women are different and defined by their respective biology has been heresy for at least 50 years, and it was the feminists who accused anyone daring to point this out of being a misogynist (ie women-phobes) to shut down the conversation and assert moral dominance.
Nothing has really changed. It's just that feminism has moved the Overton window to the point where even feminists themselves are now starting to feel uneasy about their own push for a unisex, genderless, atomised population.
I believe even trans people (in the traditional sense) will soon be thrown off the rainbow bus for daring to align with one gender or the other, rather than embrace a NB/ gender queer status.
The people you mention (who need to keep their mouths shut to keep their jobs) are no different to all the past critics of feminism who also had to deny sexual dimorphism for the last half a century, to avoid also being fired, accused of misogyny and generally hung out to dry.
The only reason I call out feminists for this blind spot/ double standard, is that we can't help children and young people navigate this ideology unless we take it right back to the origin. That origin was feminism's original claim that gender (and being gendered) is inherently problematic, the root of all social ills, as well as personal discomfort and suffering. By defining gender as the problem, feminism set up humanity on a path to erase gender as the logical solution.
It's hard to imagine, but before feminism men and women valued and celebrated each other's traits and saw male and female as complimentary forces, rather than opposing forces engaged in a war of the sexes.
So while people like JKR can stir up drama, play the victim (on behalf of all women) and help to polarise the issue even more, she is doing nothing to actually get to the root issue, which is defining gender as inherently problematic ........ an invention of feminism. And as a feminist herself JKR is part of the problem. And blaming 'men' and 'the patriarchy' is only going to drive more young women into embracing a trans identity...... an escape from the horrors of being female (likewise for young boys and men, who are told they are the root of all social ills, the oppressors of women, and toxic, rapey, scum).
Those sound like feminist terms which are designed to depict women as victims and men as oppressors.
All I can say is that for the last 2000 years (up until the birth of feminism) men's role was to protect and provide for women and children. Women and children were at the heart of society (in the family home) and men's job under 'patriarchy' was to sacrifice their own comfort, safety, health and often their lives to make sure women and children were kept safe, fed, clothed and spared the harshest realities of a brutal (ie low tech) society.
This role extends to today with men still expected to perform all the dangerous and dirty jobs in society and to generally protect women.
Feminism is a reaction against the patriarchal protections that were traditionally provided to women. As traditional gender roles began to loosen thanks to modern technology women lost much of their unique and protected status. For some women this has been a good thing. But not for feminists who are terrified of 'gender equality' and the implications of not having the full protections and privileges afforded by 'patriarchy'.
That is why feminists do nothing but assert female victimhood, to provoke all the special treatments and free stuff that women used to be entitled to automatically - but which in the modern era feel too much like 'traditionalism', which is of course no longer in vogue.
So on the one hand feminists and progressive liberals are demanding 'gender equality', but when society starts to treat men and women as the same they hate it and play the victim of everything in order to get special treatment again, as women.
It's all very silly. What feminists really want to do is assert their value and worth as women, and be appreciated for being women (just like women were always valued and appreciated in the past). But this completely contradicts their 'progressive' feminist ideology which instructs them to pretend that being a woman is a curse, being a mother is degrading and acting like a superficial man is the way to 'empowerment' and 'liberation'.
By rejecting womanhood and pushing for 'gender equality' (ie men and women are interchangeable) feminists have effectively erased themselves and their own gender roles. Now after a century of feminist activism, propaganda and changes to the law anyone can be a woman because feminists have made women to equal and indistinguishable from men.
The quest for 'gender equality' has been achieved and nobody is more offended about this than feminists.
We still haven't got to the stage of respecting men's right to not be genitally mutilated, or even acknowledge that this is an issue at all. We also do not afford men reproductive autonomy. Even underage male rape victims have been forced to pay their rapists child support for the resulting baby when they came of age.
We also push men into work which pays primarily money (rather than job satisfaction, safety, comforts and other non financial forms of pay). This money is then taken from men by force and redistributed to the state and to women. This is why we encourage men to work exclusively for money, because it can be so easily redistributed to everyone else after their payday. On balance only men actually pay taxes (women's total tax contributions are less than the total tax spending on women).
The saying "what's yours is ours and what's mine is mine" still applies today.
We still send young men off to war on a regular basis to be blown up for absolutely no good reason.
So as a society we do not respect men's bodies or property. The very idea that men own their own bodies / labour has never been recognised.
But on an individual level most women still want their men to be protectors and providers.... something which men cannot really do in a society dominated by the state.
This is why neither men nor women can ever be happy or prosperous or safe or secure as long as society is run by a violent ruling class.
Feminism has never represented women or the interests of women.
Feminism was a fringe ideology which has heavily funded by the Rockefellers and other elite interests to break up the family, push women into the labour force (where they could be taxed) and get control of the children's minds in daycare and schools which is where gender ideology is now taught - by feminist teachers.
It should be obvious to anyone that gender ideology (like feminism) is not a spontaneous 'grass roots' phenomenon. It is being funded and steered from the very top, and pushed in every nation and every institution including the legal system.
As with all things, it always helps to follow the money.
I'm pretty sure having the vote, the right to property, not to be sacked from a job just for being married or pregnant was all in the interest of women. We can dissect differences in approach in feminism, and I can agree that second wave feminism, in seeking to 'free' women from motherhood - failed to elevate the role of motherhood and the value of producing new humans to society. It was a noble goal in a way - that motherhood shouldn't be imposed on anyone. But it resulted to some extent in even less respect of mothers. That if motherhood could be avoided and you had kids anyway - that's on the individual woman. Don't expect recognition or assistance. How different things might have been if the emphasis had been - 'having babies is real work, essential work. How can we support mothers and families better'?
Trans identified men are celebrated when they win in women's sporting events and beauty pageants, trans identified women when they birth babies. It's almost like....men & women are different in some ways.
I wonder if my visceral feeling of repugnance at seeing pregnant women who’ve made themselves look like men is due to social (or maybe even terf) conditioning, or something more instinctive about the ‘wrongness’ of it?
Hurt the baby, but these women don’t care as long as they grow beards! Selfish and childish behavior on their part ! Another illustration of the insanity of our times!
Pregnancy and motherhood take sacrifice and placing the needs of the infant about your own for years. If the women who insist they are men want to be mothers, the medical profession ought to be refusing to continue testosterone prescriptions as it is a teratogen. Part of pregnancy is the loosening of ligaments etc to facilitate delivery - testosterone can't help.
In the future we may have the babies exposed to high testosterone in the womb suing health authorities for allowing them to be injured in utero. And really, who benefits from this crazy experimentation on mothers and babies? And the trans identified females who fled womanhood because it was scary - why choose to go through the most challenging and females thing that humans do?
The thing about this, becoming and being pregnant and then giving birth is the most female thing. Ergo would be incredibly dysphoric to a transman. So why are they even doing it?
So glad you are saying this so clearly. The whole movement M & F seems to treat babies as objects to satisfy men impersonating women, who use surrogates to feed their fetish, or women impersonating men. They are fascinated with their own image.
The ultimate ‘having your cake and eating it’! I had a slice of pastrami when I was pregnant and worried about it for a week. It makes me feel so sad for these women and babies.
Testosterone also effects the urethra it causes incontinence so, it also thins the vaginal lining these women will probably end up having C sections or if they try and deliver they will end up tearing and in a lot pain. But I’m sure their midwife will be all over that. So, combined with continuing taking testosterone and the menopause which they will go through they will probably end up wearing nappies.
It’s a daily ritual to try and get your pelvic floor strong after child birth, and then as we know menopause just adds to the pressure when you sneeze and cough! I can’t see these women as anything but body dysmorphia.
Question, if these women think they are now men, truly believe they are men what’s with getting pregnant then? So, are these women saying there’s no biological sex? Because as we all know men can’t get pregnant, so getting pregnant just confirms that they are women ! So what’s with all the BS then. Surely it’s time for these people to receive a healthy dose of mental health treatment!!!
I can’t understand this, only as a kind of mental illness. The sad thing is that this is treated as something to be taken as just another way of life! It isn’t! It’s a selfish way of life, not thinking of the poor baby!
Lucy, you said it best. “In my experience, the vast majority of women who are pregnant really want to safeguard their babies before they are born.” If the baby’s welfare is the priority, then ideologies that promote conflicting goals are harmful. Why is this simple truth so hard to understand?
Who is this Steve guy who wants to “ normalize “ this abnormal disgusting behavior? Why would you normalize something so completely abnormal? What is wrong with some people?
This is a SIN , and I am not really religious at all. Perhaps I should say this is criminal, which is what I really think.
These mentally ill women are poisoning their child so fuck them and their feelings. If you think you’re a seahorse, please take a 30 minute swim underwater like them.
Lucy the pictures really rally shocked me. it all seemd a bit theroetical before, but that this is acatually happening shook me. It does suggest the depth of the threat to women of whatis ahppening. I also appreciated your comments which helped calrify the situation.
This should be considered a crime against humanity for the effects. It will have on the unborn child. It doesn’t even matter what your political views are.
Also, their use of the term "offspring" feels objectifying to me. I observed many rhetorical tricks to dehumanize the unborn (human) in the article you cited.
It’s so very patriarchal that once people claiming to be men start having babies the whole idea of sacrifices for the unborn goes out the window. It would be funny if it wasn’t so infuriatingly sad.
Just for the sake of historical accuracy, let's not forget that denigrating motherhood has been in vogue for the last 50+ years, as has abandoning the role (AND RESPONSIBILITY) of motherhood - including the sensible pair bonding that is essential to be able to BE a proper mother (AKA 'stay at home').
So treating motherhood as a 'life accessory' rather than a serious undertaking is nothing new. TERFs are relishing these kinds of stories because AT LAST they can point the finger at someone else and claim the moral high ground. All of a sudden 'womanhood' and 'motherhood' is sacred (because writing blogs critical of trans activists requires no effort or sacrifice), but feminism has been denigrating femininity and female responsibility for more than 100 years, and pushing transhumanism to replace it (under the banner of 'empowerment'). So it all feels a bit rich to me.
Having said that, I think maybe all this non-binary / gender queer stuff might be necessary to provoke a new renaissance of sexual dimorphism, where we all stop moaning about men/ women and learn to appreciate male / female biology and natural pair bonding, as the best possible configuration for a fun and healthy society. Nature always trumps any new technology in the end, even if we get temporarily seduced by it. Feminism itself was a celebration of new gender bending tech - not least the pill - which was the beginnings of endocrine disruption and technology assisted erasure of biology (AKA transhumanism).
'Patriarchy' is when you have a society which prioritises the comfort, safety, health and well being of women and children, with men providing resources, protection and the 'hard outer shell' - sacrificing their own comfort, wellbeing (and often their lives) in the process.
Getting rid of traditional gender roles (smashing the patriarchy) is the first step needed to create a transhuman / technocratic 'utopia'. So I guess the moral of the story is be careful what you wish for :)
I disagree with your statement: "(because writing blogs critical of trans activists requires no effort or sacrifice)", because to be critical of trans activism now can require a level of sacrifice that (unless you have the financial resources of someone like JK Rowling), most 'ordinary' people cannot cope with. I know many nurses, midwives and volunteer and paid breastfeeding advocates who need to keep their jobs to pay their mortgages and feed their children, so keep their beliefs in biology and human physiology to themselves, lest they offend some delusional/and or confused colleague or client.
It is possible in many cases to hew to reality subversively, and it is not always possible to shout that popular cult members are wrong.
Feminism is a maligned idea, different people ascribe it different meanings. I read Germaine Greer's The.Whole Woman 1999, where she wrote of 'painted ladies' - or TIMs. It was about then I first read of TERFs and agreed with them. I don't agree that 'being a feminist' means pretending men and women's physical differences are inconsequential. It's the sex vs gender dichotomy. I believe that women should not be disparaged as emotional/ stupid/ belong at home because vulnerable/ victim in the making or periods/ pregnancy or menopause/ mental case/ unattractive. But not by the university scholars pretending physical sex doesn't matter and going 'Judith Butler'. But by insisting society at large value the work women do in pregnancy, breastfeeding etc. I'm a science and nursing graduate mum, married for 25 years. Motherhood means unlike my husband, I still have education debt in my late 40s. THAT is the kind of thing feminism is about. Economic prejudice/ rules set up ignoring the life cycle of women which are half the population.
Yes you are right, beyond a certain point it becomes dangerous to oppose the de-gendering of society. As an aside, this tells us the agenda comes from the tippy top, and that these transhuman-obsessed social engineers only 'care' about young people to the extent that they can use them as a human shield/ Trojan horse for their agendas.
I was talking more about the average 'coffee shop' TERF/ GC who has suddenly decided that female biology is sacred after all, and that women should now be defined by it, after spending decades biting the head off anyone who dares to define women that way.
This is why everyone is rolling their eyes at the TERFs. The idea that men and women are different and defined by their respective biology has been heresy for at least 50 years, and it was the feminists who accused anyone daring to point this out of being a misogynist (ie women-phobes) to shut down the conversation and assert moral dominance.
Nothing has really changed. It's just that feminism has moved the Overton window to the point where even feminists themselves are now starting to feel uneasy about their own push for a unisex, genderless, atomised population.
I believe even trans people (in the traditional sense) will soon be thrown off the rainbow bus for daring to align with one gender or the other, rather than embrace a NB/ gender queer status.
The people you mention (who need to keep their mouths shut to keep their jobs) are no different to all the past critics of feminism who also had to deny sexual dimorphism for the last half a century, to avoid also being fired, accused of misogyny and generally hung out to dry.
The only reason I call out feminists for this blind spot/ double standard, is that we can't help children and young people navigate this ideology unless we take it right back to the origin. That origin was feminism's original claim that gender (and being gendered) is inherently problematic, the root of all social ills, as well as personal discomfort and suffering. By defining gender as the problem, feminism set up humanity on a path to erase gender as the logical solution.
It's hard to imagine, but before feminism men and women valued and celebrated each other's traits and saw male and female as complimentary forces, rather than opposing forces engaged in a war of the sexes.
So while people like JKR can stir up drama, play the victim (on behalf of all women) and help to polarise the issue even more, she is doing nothing to actually get to the root issue, which is defining gender as inherently problematic ........ an invention of feminism. And as a feminist herself JKR is part of the problem. And blaming 'men' and 'the patriarchy' is only going to drive more young women into embracing a trans identity...... an escape from the horrors of being female (likewise for young boys and men, who are told they are the root of all social ills, the oppressors of women, and toxic, rapey, scum).
#terfisaslur
Denigrating motherhood has been en vogue for 2000 years or more which began with the creation of a fathered but not mothered humanity.
Those sound like feminist terms which are designed to depict women as victims and men as oppressors.
All I can say is that for the last 2000 years (up until the birth of feminism) men's role was to protect and provide for women and children. Women and children were at the heart of society (in the family home) and men's job under 'patriarchy' was to sacrifice their own comfort, safety, health and often their lives to make sure women and children were kept safe, fed, clothed and spared the harshest realities of a brutal (ie low tech) society.
This role extends to today with men still expected to perform all the dangerous and dirty jobs in society and to generally protect women.
Feminism is a reaction against the patriarchal protections that were traditionally provided to women. As traditional gender roles began to loosen thanks to modern technology women lost much of their unique and protected status. For some women this has been a good thing. But not for feminists who are terrified of 'gender equality' and the implications of not having the full protections and privileges afforded by 'patriarchy'.
That is why feminists do nothing but assert female victimhood, to provoke all the special treatments and free stuff that women used to be entitled to automatically - but which in the modern era feel too much like 'traditionalism', which is of course no longer in vogue.
So on the one hand feminists and progressive liberals are demanding 'gender equality', but when society starts to treat men and women as the same they hate it and play the victim of everything in order to get special treatment again, as women.
It's all very silly. What feminists really want to do is assert their value and worth as women, and be appreciated for being women (just like women were always valued and appreciated in the past). But this completely contradicts their 'progressive' feminist ideology which instructs them to pretend that being a woman is a curse, being a mother is degrading and acting like a superficial man is the way to 'empowerment' and 'liberation'.
By rejecting womanhood and pushing for 'gender equality' (ie men and women are interchangeable) feminists have effectively erased themselves and their own gender roles. Now after a century of feminist activism, propaganda and changes to the law anyone can be a woman because feminists have made women to equal and indistinguishable from men.
The quest for 'gender equality' has been achieved and nobody is more offended about this than feminists.
Men are expected to protect their own property yes, and also can do what they will with it.
We still haven't got to the stage of respecting men's right to not be genitally mutilated, or even acknowledge that this is an issue at all. We also do not afford men reproductive autonomy. Even underage male rape victims have been forced to pay their rapists child support for the resulting baby when they came of age.
We also push men into work which pays primarily money (rather than job satisfaction, safety, comforts and other non financial forms of pay). This money is then taken from men by force and redistributed to the state and to women. This is why we encourage men to work exclusively for money, because it can be so easily redistributed to everyone else after their payday. On balance only men actually pay taxes (women's total tax contributions are less than the total tax spending on women).
The saying "what's yours is ours and what's mine is mine" still applies today.
We still send young men off to war on a regular basis to be blown up for absolutely no good reason.
So as a society we do not respect men's bodies or property. The very idea that men own their own bodies / labour has never been recognised.
But on an individual level most women still want their men to be protectors and providers.... something which men cannot really do in a society dominated by the state.
This is why neither men nor women can ever be happy or prosperous or safe or secure as long as society is run by a violent ruling class.
I too wish men hadn’t invented circumcision and decided to use it liberally. Oh well
It is difficult to consider your points when you use the slur that people always seem to scream out when they want a woman to just shut up 🤫
Feminism has never represented women or the interests of women.
Feminism was a fringe ideology which has heavily funded by the Rockefellers and other elite interests to break up the family, push women into the labour force (where they could be taxed) and get control of the children's minds in daycare and schools which is where gender ideology is now taught - by feminist teachers.
It should be obvious to anyone that gender ideology (like feminism) is not a spontaneous 'grass roots' phenomenon. It is being funded and steered from the very top, and pushed in every nation and every institution including the legal system.
As with all things, it always helps to follow the money.
I'm pretty sure having the vote, the right to property, not to be sacked from a job just for being married or pregnant was all in the interest of women. We can dissect differences in approach in feminism, and I can agree that second wave feminism, in seeking to 'free' women from motherhood - failed to elevate the role of motherhood and the value of producing new humans to society. It was a noble goal in a way - that motherhood shouldn't be imposed on anyone. But it resulted to some extent in even less respect of mothers. That if motherhood could be avoided and you had kids anyway - that's on the individual woman. Don't expect recognition or assistance. How different things might have been if the emphasis had been - 'having babies is real work, essential work. How can we support mothers and families better'?
Trans identified men are celebrated when they win in women's sporting events and beauty pageants, trans identified women when they birth babies. It's almost like....men & women are different in some ways.
I wonder if my visceral feeling of repugnance at seeing pregnant women who’ve made themselves look like men is due to social (or maybe even terf) conditioning, or something more instinctive about the ‘wrongness’ of it?
It is always wrong to deny children a mother, however convoluted they try and make it.
It IS WRONG! And it probably will
Hurt the baby, but these women don’t care as long as they grow beards! Selfish and childish behavior on their part ! Another illustration of the insanity of our times!
Exulansic has a free videos where she discusses the harms to babies of mothers who took testosterone
Pregnancy and motherhood take sacrifice and placing the needs of the infant about your own for years. If the women who insist they are men want to be mothers, the medical profession ought to be refusing to continue testosterone prescriptions as it is a teratogen. Part of pregnancy is the loosening of ligaments etc to facilitate delivery - testosterone can't help.
In the future we may have the babies exposed to high testosterone in the womb suing health authorities for allowing them to be injured in utero. And really, who benefits from this crazy experimentation on mothers and babies? And the trans identified females who fled womanhood because it was scary - why choose to go through the most challenging and females thing that humans do?
The thing about this, becoming and being pregnant and then giving birth is the most female thing. Ergo would be incredibly dysphoric to a transman. So why are they even doing it?
How could this ever be "TERF conditioning"??? Are you nuts?
You and me both. Something so utterly repugnant about it these freaks make me feel physically ill.
So glad you are saying this so clearly. The whole movement M & F seems to treat babies as objects to satisfy men impersonating women, who use surrogates to feed their fetish, or women impersonating men. They are fascinated with their own image.
The ultimate ‘having your cake and eating it’! I had a slice of pastrami when I was pregnant and worried about it for a week. It makes me feel so sad for these women and babies.
Testosterone also effects the urethra it causes incontinence so, it also thins the vaginal lining these women will probably end up having C sections or if they try and deliver they will end up tearing and in a lot pain. But I’m sure their midwife will be all over that. So, combined with continuing taking testosterone and the menopause which they will go through they will probably end up wearing nappies.
It’s a daily ritual to try and get your pelvic floor strong after child birth, and then as we know menopause just adds to the pressure when you sneeze and cough! I can’t see these women as anything but body dysmorphia.
Question, if these women think they are now men, truly believe they are men what’s with getting pregnant then? So, are these women saying there’s no biological sex? Because as we all know men can’t get pregnant, so getting pregnant just confirms that they are women ! So what’s with all the BS then. Surely it’s time for these people to receive a healthy dose of mental health treatment!!!
I can’t understand this, only as a kind of mental illness. The sad thing is that this is treated as something to be taken as just another way of life! It isn’t! It’s a selfish way of life, not thinking of the poor baby!
NONE of this shit considers that babies have their own human rights and agency.
Lucy, you said it best. “In my experience, the vast majority of women who are pregnant really want to safeguard their babies before they are born.” If the baby’s welfare is the priority, then ideologies that promote conflicting goals are harmful. Why is this simple truth so hard to understand?
Who is this Steve guy who wants to “ normalize “ this abnormal disgusting behavior? Why would you normalize something so completely abnormal? What is wrong with some people?
This is a SIN , and I am not really religious at all. Perhaps I should say this is criminal, which is what I really think.
I hate to bring you back to reality, nature and science but Men don't become pregnant.
Only women become pregnant including those pretending to be men‼️ ♀️♀️♀️
And it takes a man ♂️ and a woman ♀️ to concieve a human baby.
Seahorses are another situation
These mentally ill women are poisoning their child so fuck them and their feelings. If you think you’re a seahorse, please take a 30 minute swim underwater like them.
Lucy the pictures really rally shocked me. it all seemd a bit theroetical before, but that this is acatually happening shook me. It does suggest the depth of the threat to women of whatis ahppening. I also appreciated your comments which helped calrify the situation.
The only time people without a Y chromosome are allowed to center themselves!
Can we not have anything anymore? The Time woman of the year was a MAN. The world really hates us.
This should be considered a crime against humanity for the effects. It will have on the unborn child. It doesn’t even matter what your political views are.
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Completely agree--thank you.
Also, their use of the term "offspring" feels objectifying to me. I observed many rhetorical tricks to dehumanize the unborn (human) in the article you cited.